Comments on: No Respect… Blogger Ethics… AGAIN? http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/ Driving the evolution of wine marketing and wine public relations Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:53:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: tish http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5274 tish Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:31:32 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5274 Moving forward, it will be interesting to see if/when the Wine Advocate and blogging communities overlap. Right now it seems they are so far apart that the debate is a lot like a snowball fight with two sides lobbing stuff from afar. Time will indeed tell. Moving forward, it will be interesting to see if/when the Wine Advocate and blogging communities overlap. Right now it seems they are so far apart that the debate is a lot like a snowball fight with two sides lobbing stuff from afar. Time will indeed tell.

]]> By: 1WineDude http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5181 1WineDude Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:49:45 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5181 I certainly understand Joel's outcry at the RP comments, since WBC and OWC were singled out in the thread on eBob and he deserves the opportunity to set the record straight. As for RP being against blogs in general, this is taken from the same thread on eBob: "passion can be a great asset,but it can be dangerous as well...the Taliban has passion is just one example...BTW....we have a blog...Lettie Teague ...and there are bloggers I enjoy ...Vinography comes to mind immediately...so it is not so much an anti-blogging position... just anti irresponsible bloggers..." The questionable tastefulness of the Taliban comparison aside, I'm sure RP is not dismissing all blogs. But I'm just amazed that people on eBob (including RP) would consider blogging a) a coordinated attempt at undermining print media, or b) a substitute as a reference for collectors of ultra high-end wine. Herding Cats doesn't even begin to describe what it's like to coordinate a large number of independent bloggers to do *anything*. And there are many, many wine blogs - probably well over 98% of them - that don't even touch the core market of TWA. The insularity of that thinking is simply striking. I certainly understand Joel’s outcry at the RP comments, since WBC and OWC were singled out in the thread on eBob and he deserves the opportunity to set the record straight.

As for RP being against blogs in general, this is taken from the same thread on eBob:

“passion can be a great asset,but it can be dangerous as well…the Taliban has passion is just one example…BTW….we have a blog…Lettie Teague …and there are bloggers I enjoy …Vinography comes to mind immediately…so it is not so much an anti-blogging position… just anti irresponsible bloggers…”

The questionable tastefulness of the Taliban comparison aside, I’m sure RP is not dismissing all blogs. But I’m just amazed that people on eBob (including RP) would consider blogging a) a coordinated attempt at undermining print media, or b) a substitute as a reference for collectors of ultra high-end wine.

Herding Cats doesn’t even begin to describe what it’s like to coordinate a large number of independent bloggers to do *anything*.

And there are many, many wine blogs – probably well over 98% of them – that don’t even touch the core market of TWA.

The insularity of that thinking is simply striking.

]]> By: Michael Wangbickler http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5141 Michael Wangbickler Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:51:52 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5141 You have a point Joe. What did you call it, "navel gazing"? Perhaps we should all just agree to disagree and quit sniping at each other. That includes RP. Tuba: I wouldn't go as far as to say that RP is attempting to "take down the entire blogger community". He clearly has issues with wine bloggers, but I don't think it is a concerted attempt to kill wine blogging altogether. You have a point Joe. What did you call it, “navel gazing”? Perhaps we should all just agree to disagree and quit sniping at each other. That includes RP.

Tuba: I wouldn’t go as far as to say that RP is attempting to “take down the entire blogger community”. He clearly has issues with wine bloggers, but I don’t think it is a concerted attempt to kill wine blogging altogether.

]]> By: Vintuba http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5138 Vintuba Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:46:01 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5138 Hey Michael, Nice post! Will be to see interesting were this all leads. Perhaps Parker and Dr Vino will end up as good friends like 1WineDude and Steve Heimoff :) This debate is important, but what is not right is RP attempt to take down the entire blogger community because he does not agree with the postings of an individual. Cheers Hey Michael,

Nice post! Will be to see interesting were this all leads. Perhaps Parker and Dr Vino will end up as good friends like 1WineDude and Steve Heimoff :)

This debate is important, but what is not right is RP attempt to take down the entire blogger community because he does not agree with the postings of an individual.

Cheers

]]> By: Steve Heimoff http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5137 Steve Heimoff Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:04:02 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5137 Yes, Joe, but it's a good conversation. Yes, Joe, but it’s a good conversation.

]]> By: 1WineDude http://cavemanwines.com/blog/2009/04/23/blogger-ethics-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5133 1WineDude Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:58:49 +0000 http://cavemanwines.com/blog/?p=642#comment-5133 Maybe we get no respect because we spend so much time talking about ourselves... :-P Maybe we get no respect because we spend so much time talking about ourselves… :-P

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